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Utah on verge of passing bill demanding Feds relinquish public land

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SALT LAKE CITY – Lawmakers who want to seize control of federal lands are pushing a legal battle they insist is winnable despite multiple warnings their effort is highly unconstitutional and almost sure to fail in court.

Utah is poised to become the first state to pass a package of bills that demand the federal government relinquish claims to huge sections of public land. A proposal that advanced Wednesday demands that by 2014 the federal government cede control of nearly 30 million acres -- nearly 50 percent of the entire state.

A bill setting an identical deadline is also moving in the Arizona Legislature.

Rep. Ken Ivory, who is leading the effort in Utah and helped draft model legislation for use in other states, said the federal government doesn't treat states like equal


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KAR120CSII
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Message Posted: Mar 25, 2012 3:54:00 PM

Ever see how Utah handles it's public lands? Try Goblin Valley some time. And the 'School Board' lands? The Feds aren't doing such a great job, but it's better than Utah. Go on SUWA website to get my jist.
tjc09f
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Message Posted: Mar 22, 2012 11:28:35 PM

interesting
honda0105
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Message Posted: Mar 9, 2012 6:07:35 AM

LEC: just reading the first paragraph had me thinking the same. Thar's oil in them hills... and we ain't giving it up to DC.
pbug101
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Message Posted: Mar 8, 2012 6:33:38 AM

Ok
LetemEatCake
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Message Posted: Mar 8, 2012 5:10:17 AM


You have to be a little afraid of those 2 states with their crazy State Legislators. The land is so valuable, read....ripe for exploitation. Sounds like a GREED disaster to me.
tomok
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Message Posted: Mar 8, 2012 3:59:59 AM

The Feds own nearly 50% of Utah? What exactly is on the land that the state wants?
*The state is angry that it has missed opportunities to develop and mine lands managed by the U.S. Bureau of Land Management and U.S. Forest Service.
*...we feel that we have federal land management policies that ignore the needs of the state, county or local residents.
*...not responsive to local needs.
Sorry about that Utah, federal law and ownership over states rights.
12/22/2012!
numbers
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Message Posted: Mar 8, 2012 2:15:56 AM

No
VDubBill
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Message Posted: Mar 8, 2012 1:15:30 AM

Start worrying if the National Parks and Forests have signs in Mandarin Chinese at the entrances.
vulcan96
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Message Posted: Mar 8, 2012 12:46:58 AM

just do it !!
hank1326
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Message Posted: Mar 8, 2012 12:45:46 AM

Less government the better. Especially with the current clueless administration.
RickF350
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Message Posted: Mar 8, 2012 12:32:16 AM

Good!
carman11
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Message Posted: Mar 8, 2012 12:25:57 AM

There is also concern that access to state-owned or private lands will be increasingly restricted by Congress or even with the stroke of a president's pen, which happened in 1996 when President Bill Clinton created the 1.9-million-acre Grand Staircase-Escalante National Monument in southern Utah.
Good for Utah who is poised to become the first state to pass a package of bills that demand the federal government relinquish claims to huge sections of public land. A proposal that advanced Wednesday demands that by 2014 the federal government cede control of nearly 30 million acres -- nearly 50 percent of the entire state.
More States need to take their STATES BACK!!!!

frostyWV
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Message Posted: Mar 8, 2012 12:25:08 AM

won't happen.
TopGunn
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Message Posted: Mar 8, 2012 12:24:58 AM

Who is getting greedy now?
srchr
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Message Posted: Mar 8, 2012 12:23:59 AM

that was the original idea, how to disburse the lands to the citizenry
LoneGuy
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Message Posted: Mar 8, 2012 12:23:19 AM

When this nation was founded the federal governmental powers were limited by the bill of rights. Look how much power it has taken in violation of the Constitution.
HolyJoe
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Message Posted: Mar 8, 2012 12:23:00 AM

BEST OF LUCK
Bigwaynef
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Message Posted: Mar 8, 2012 12:22:30 AM

If it's for drilling...get ur done...
Dodge_Me
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Message Posted: Mar 8, 2012 12:22:14 AM

Hmm, why?
Matt G
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Message Posted: Mar 8, 2012 12:20:48 AM

Good
DEG
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Message Posted: Mar 8, 2012 12:19:57 AM

CA and NV are also largely owned by the federal government. I agree with zonkthegreat about this not directly being a gas issue (unless the purpose is to drill for oil).
tedjm1
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Message Posted: Mar 8, 2012 12:18:40 AM

Leave these forests to the states, they will be gone in a short while. Oil & gas means money to the states. If you don't mine within their state when the land sitsn on 'PROFIT', they want the land crded back to the state from the feds.

Dangerous for our future.
zonkthegreat
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Message Posted: Mar 8, 2012 12:17:22 AM

Not sure what this has to do was gas?

Beside this has been a western US issue for years. The state is only looking for more tax money in the end of this anyway.
GOBUTLER
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Message Posted: Mar 8, 2012 12:15:42 AM

Interesting...
10k
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Message Posted: Mar 8, 2012 12:15:31 AM

if utah pulls this off, maybe nevada can get more than 15% of their state also, since nevada is 85% government property..

i wanna see area 51..y'all know-that place that doesn't exist-lol..

[Edited by: 10k at 3/8/2012 12:17:11 AM EST]
Bonito
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Message Posted: Mar 8, 2012 12:15:19 AM

WOW --- here comes the another war -- maybe they will part from the rest of the county and become their own Country?
mfeldstein
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Message Posted: Mar 8, 2012 12:12:43 AM

Double_Golden ... What a drag it is to read you.
v240
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Message Posted: Mar 8, 2012 12:11:42 AM

And this has what ?? to do with the price of gasoline ??
Double_Golden
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Message Posted: Mar 8, 2012 12:08:50 AM

ok
joel27nc
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Message Posted: Mar 8, 2012 12:08:08 AM

I don't know enough about stuff like this..whatever works is fine with me.
Blue_Cruzer
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Message Posted: Mar 8, 2012 12:07:53 AM

I can't see this ever happening.
Gassed01
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Message Posted: Mar 8, 2012 12:07:41 AM

What a bunch of mormons.
pastorpaulcg
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Message Posted: Mar 8, 2012 12:07:22 AM

Ok
regout
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Message Posted: Mar 8, 2012 12:06:42 AM

Utah may have something there.
TheSicilian
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Message Posted: Mar 8, 2012 12:06:07 AM

if obummer can so can they
heartbroken2010
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Message Posted: Mar 8, 2012 12:05:56 AM

interesting.
Pumpz
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Message Posted: Mar 8, 2012 12:03:01 AM

Go Utah.
tampacrvdriver
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Message Posted: Mar 8, 2012 12:02:45 AM

Let's see what happens.
furiousfowl
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Message Posted: Mar 8, 2012 12:02:41 AM

good luck
cheapchickKY
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Message Posted: Mar 8, 2012 12:02:37 AM

Interesting.
gass12
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Message Posted: Mar 8, 2012 12:02:33 AM

Who do they think they are? By the time this lawsuit is over the Goverment will own the State.
mcmonsta
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Message Posted: Mar 7, 2012 11:59:06 PM

good luck & i hope you have very deep pockets...how long do they think it will take and by what century?
bonzoonfmb
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Message Posted: Mar 7, 2012 11:57:47 PM

States rights.
BlueVanGroup
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Message Posted: Mar 7, 2012 11:56:34 PM

A great idea, but this administration (and many establishment Republicans) want the federal government to control everything.
Suzzoom
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Message Posted: Mar 7, 2012 11:54:48 PM

How is that land currently allocated? Military bases? Reservations? National parks? Grazing? Blowing things up? If it's BLM (Bureau of Land Management), that doesn't mean it's not used.
mfeldstein
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Message Posted: Mar 7, 2012 11:54:09 PM

A bit too greedy.
mrreferee
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Message Posted: Mar 7, 2012 11:52:59 PM

Those crazy Mormons.. They just might win!
gasaholicMO
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Message Posted: Mar 7, 2012 11:51:44 PM

Federal land grab. Courts will not let it happen.
pgerassi
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Message Posted: Mar 7, 2012 11:51:28 PM

It will fail big time and come back to haunt those states.
g747
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Message Posted: Mar 7, 2012 11:50:28 PM

Uphill battle!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!.
jrsva
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Message Posted: Mar 7, 2012 11:50:06 PM


Sounds like a bunch of lawyers trying to gin up business. Regardless of how it plays out the lawyers will get rich at the taxpayers’ expense.
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